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Old 11-29-2005, 12:57 PM
nolanfan34 nolanfan34 is offline
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Default Re: Multi-way pot with a flopped straight-flush draw

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Why did you not include JQ or two clubs, two very possible holdings that put hero way behind?

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Because you have no reason to believe they are there?

Come on guys, you can't fold this and shouldn't even think about anything but pushing for over half a second.

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This is pretty much the crux of the discussion, and the reason I thought the hand was interesting. When I saw the hand, I immediately thought easy push. But there were a number of people who said the same things as some have in this thread, regarding just how strong the draws are, and whether hero is drawing live, etc. I thought it was interesting the people pretty much were in one camp or the other - not much middle ground.

After looking at the math, and the ranges of possible hands, I do think this is something I'd probably push with as well. Particularly because it's a SNG, and you can't pass up the chance to pick up this many chips I think, when you have a small edge and there's a chance that people will fold. I think it's important to remember that while the board looks dangerous to hero because of possible draws, it looks equally dangerous, if not moreso, to an opponent who may be ahead now with an overpair, but doesn't have a club or a straight draw.

Thanks for the discussion on this.
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