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Old 11-29-2005, 10:40 AM
btspider btspider is offline
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Default Re: ATo preflop - I have no idea

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Yeah, this is interesting. I was also thinking, how happy are we about our BDSD? We will not likely be able to call a turn bet anyways.

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I'd only count the 9's and Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] towards our BDSD.. with the hearts completing the straight needing a further discount.

the standard 1.5 is far too optimistic here and only applies to 3-card straights. Once you introduce gaps, and duplicate outs with other draws, you need a few discounts.

absolute is right, PF w/o reads is a bit of a moot discussion. you can't go terribly wrong with any of the 3 choices.
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