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Old 11-28-2005, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: consistent losing

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On $3/6 Omaha 8 Party, I must be the worst player, or unluckiest. I play with quality starters and get outdrawn or counterfeited. I am beaten regularly by people who will call or raise with poor cards. It is endless and I am consistently losing my money. I am thinking about quitting poker as I have read and studied. Hard to believe that anyone gets anywhere, except Party! Comments?

Bob

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Stick with it, and don't give up on limit. I believe that, ultimately, limit games will give you the lowest variance in on-line games because your bets costs less while you have less info. In NL or PL you're going to have tough decisions regularly. Also, remember that limit has a great advantage in that weaker players are more likely to call, although their schooling will increase your variance.

You may want to loosen up a little as well. On top of the "good" hands, give these guys some thought, even when the table's tight:

Any hand that has 3 or more cards under 5 (you don't have to have an Ace in limit, but you should probably have one in NL or PL);

Any hand that has 4 cards over Ten;

Any hand that has four cards in sequential rank (and double suited being the bomb) such as 7,8,9,10 (some/most people hate the sixes through nines, I am in love with wheel stompers when they're connected);

You can call the raises with these "marginal" hands within reason, fold more often if the table is tight aggressive and you're OOP.

When the table is looser (i.e. 4 or more players seeing the flop), then you need to be looser before the flop as well. Consider playing:

Any: AAxx, KKxx, QQxx, JJxx, 10-10xx, 99xx (with xx being close in rank to the pairs and preferably suited at least once);

Any A2xx or A3xx (again you will want the xx's to be close and hopefully suited);

When the table is mega-loose; it can pay to play any four cards. Ugg, I hear the tight ones groaning, but hear me out.

When the table is tight, starting hands are extremely important. You are facing good cards and low odds. When the table is loose, it's what you flop that counts because you are getting great odds.

You also really need to focus on letting go of bad flops early. Don't feel you have to stay in a scary board with top two pair or a set just because their are players who repeatedly take in pots with such "junk" when there are str8's or flushes on the board.

BTW - you are not the worst. If you are smart enough to know what a good starting hand in O/8 is, you just can't be the worst, not at that limit. Don't let variance distract you or put you on tilt. (Little bit of a hypocrite here, I did that just last week, and blew a boat load of money...lol) When you get the nuances of flop play, you will have a lot more fun than you ever will at hold'em.
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