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Old 11-28-2005, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Did I chicken out with my flush draw on the turn?

My two cents (more like centavos). I only like the turn play on this hand. Everything else has issues.

Preflop is an easy fold, unless the guy is an 80VPIP/50PFR guy. Then you would raise.

Flop raise drives out the folks you want in. Put those two on your buddy list - they're lovely. I do like the flop cap. On the flop you have about 33% equity give or take in the pot. Once you know those two are coming along for the ride you are making a profit by capping. Kudos.

Turn is fine. I would have kicked the dog because UTG+1 likely just boated up.

Others are saying the river raise is standard. I don't like it. Unless UTG+1 is an idiot, you can reduce his likely hands down to just a few choices:

AA - 3 ways
KK - 6 ways
QQ - 3 ways
JJ - 3 ways
88 - 1 way

Of those possiblilies you like 9 of them and hate 7 of them. I would think it unlikely that you would get a lot of cold callers on the river (you got 2/3 - amazing). Most of the time you will drop off those guys. If the villain has QQ, JJ, or 88 you will get repopped on the river.

The river play is anything but "standard". It all depends on the cold callers (assuming the villain is sane). He is betting into you on a straightening, flushed, and possibly boated board. I would give him a double chance of the QQ, JJ, and 88 based on this. (9 ways you like the outcome, 14 you hate it). HU is a slam dunk decision here - you call and pray he is overplaying AA or KK. Assuming you think you will get one cold caller on a raise the EV is:

calling (and getting 2/3 overcalls): 9/23(3BB) - 14/33(1BB) = .57BB

calling (and getting 3 overcalls): 8/23(4BB) - 14/33(1BB) = .96BB

If you raise and think you will get one cold caller (at Party 1/2 this is even a bit unlikely with how rockish it is) you will get repopped and lose 3BB when you are down and you will get called and win 4 BB when up. EV:

9/23(4BB) - 14/23 (3BB) = -.26BB

Say you do get the two cold callers all the way down. You would win 6BB:

9/23(6BB) - 14/23(3BB) = .52BB

All these assume a sane villain. Knowing that, this is an easy call. Actually, maybe not so easy - but my first blush when I looked at the hand was to call the river. I sat down and plugged at it to see if that made sense. Given all variables it is easly the right decision.

Take care.
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