[jthegreat]

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hi, so you mean 'axiomatic' in the informal sense of 'generally agreed upon principles", ? you don't mean it in the modern sense of deductions from an axiomatic system of logic?

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I meant "axiomatic" as in "self-evidently true". Sorry for any confusion on that point.

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as to the chaos business, i think you dropped the ball on that one. you didn't mention "chaos theory" in you op, so why bring it up now---except to draw the line between macroscopic order and disorder?

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I thought you were bringing up seemingly chaotic events (hurricanes, tornadoes, etc...) as evidence of disorder. By macroscopic scale, I mean that every time I drop my pencil, it falls until it lands on something. I'm not talking about a quantum-scale event.