[benkath1]

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Hand 1 I like. The pot is small enough to discourage chasers and you should pick it up right there. Or get check raised and drop it like it's hot.

Hand 2 I'm not sure. gutshot and ten high bdfd. Doesn't seem worth it to me.

I'll read what the others have to say and hopefully learn something.

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OK, I think I got something out of this. I guess my concern to everyone who likes hand 2 is, how many of these pots are you taking down?

Maybe I'm just playing in the wrong games, but it seems when I make a value bet similar to this one, someone's there to call me down with bottom pair or A high.

Can I ask about your turn play? what if in hand 2 the turn is something like the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]? Are you betting again? Check/folding if called and missed the river?

Oblviously I'm having trouble winning showdowns and I think my turn play is the start of the problem.