Wasn't trying to start that discussion. I understand the reason for the rule--collusion. But that it opens a gateway. I was just upset that he couldn't explain. Say "you have a lot of chips, I want to learn to play like you" or "I think you are cheating" or "that was an interesting line, what did you have?". lol. I really didn't understand why he wanted it, but I didn't care about the right, just the reason.