As a reference for TwoPlusTwoers, I am trying to collect enough samples to post the average winrate among winning players of four hands: K9o, Q9o, J9o, T9o.

These 4 hands are interesting in that they represent hands right on the cusp of breaking even. They're hands that, possibly, if played very well, could show an overall profit. If this exercise proves successful, I will continue doing this stats collection with a larger variety of hands.

Right now, the only reference of this kind that I know of is at

http://www.pokerroom.com/main/page/g...stats/expValue

This reference has some shortcomings; namely that it incorporates the results of ALL players, including losing ones. Many hands, especially marginal ones, do drastically worse in the hands of poor players than they would with good players.

Below is the current tally for the hands. We need many more responses to generate a statistically sufficient sample size. I have listed all the people who have contributed hands so far. Thanks to all of them for their time and data on behalf of all of 2+2.

Hand Samples Winrate
K9o 22116 -0.022bb/hand
Q9o 22480 -0.045bb/hand
J9o 22690 -0.061bb/hand
T9o 22265 -0.030bb/hand

vkh
Our House
Lmn55d
Cankid
Slik
tolbiny
BoxTree
chris_a
Victor
Monty Cantsin
tallstack
gemmer
BugsBunny
baronzeus
kahntrutahn
Happydaz
protocol
LimitPlayer
climber