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I respectfully concur that Harrington does not seem to be suggesting a player wait for traditional value premium hands (such as KK, QQ) when their M falls to critically low levels. In fact, he calls A8 OS as a viable push in such situations.

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sorry, i was a little off there, although i did throw in pocket pairs and AT+ and KJ+ (not that far from A8o).

but at an M of 6-10 (say closer to 10), does he not want you to have enough to do a multi-stage betting strategy??? or does he want you to push all-in with A8o).

i think at an M of 4-5 then you definitely want to push all-in and be first to do so. i seem to remember harrington liking position (unopened late pot; no huge stacks in the way) and situation better than the hand value in pushing all-in. or was that more at an M of 2?

anyhow, tremendous book, haven't looked at vol 2 in awhile, but been reading vol 1 alot recently.