[stripsqueez]

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i dont like the preflop call without stats or reads. you need to know that there is a strong chance you have the only pair preflop and you need to have an idea of how these guys play postflop to make playing 44 unimproved profitable. the edge you have by playing 44 for a raise in this situation is very small when you have reads. when you dont have reads i believe your edge is negative

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this sounds right to me - except rather than say that you need a read i just think you need to not play it like a chook

i figure i made a pact when i called pre-flop not to spew when i dont hit - but - there is trouble everywhere so now i'm here i cant think too cruelly of the spew turn raise

i just arrived and i'm keen for action - plenty of times someone 3 bets and thats very bad because i fold - some tiny amount of times they all fold - or i hit a 4 - or i get a free river and win

could be chook like but at worst it looks much worse than it is

stripsqueez - chickenhawk