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Old 11-13-2005, 06:05 AM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: Again with cold calling small pairs

i dont like the preflop call without stats or reads. you need to know that there is a strong chance you have the only pair preflop and you need to have an idea of how these guys play postflop to make playing 44 unimproved profitable. the edge you have by playing 44 for a raise in this situation is very small when you have reads. when you dont have reads i believe your edge is negative.

you played the flop right for sure. if you dont know to raise this flop with your pp then the preflop call would be a gigantic mistake.

i dont agree with everyone that the turn situation is close. i think its an easy fold. after UTG calls 2 on the flop and a board coordinating card falls i think you can be pretty sure that youre beaten when someone bets into you. its just a really bad spot to be proceding with your hand.

raising is clearly better than calling the turn, but i would estimate that a raise has significant negative equity.
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