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Old 11-13-2005, 05:19 AM
ALL1N ALL1N is offline
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Default Re: Quick thoughts, more later

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My point is simple. What the other two guys do shouldn't impact your thoughts regarding UTG's hand strength (for the most part) or bluffing frequency (at all), because he does not know what they are going to do when he bets. If you think he is bluffing enough for you to call, it shouldn't matter whether zero, one, or both call in the middle.

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Eh?? When the other guy's call, it attacks the range of UTG in a non-uniform manner. Why do you say it can't impact his bluffing frequency?

If, just after UTG bets, we put him on:
-3% bluff
-37% hand with an ace
-60% better hand no holding an ace

then it's a call.

However, after 2 callers, the likelihood of UTG having an ace has diminished to almost zero, and so of course our likelihood of being ahead are much closer to 3/63 ~5%, which is a fold.
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