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Old 11-13-2005, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: Keeping the Initiative (Stars 100 hand)

If the preflop action and effective stack sizes are such that you can get allin on the flop with top set of QQ/KK and junky no redraw sidecards, then that is fine. But if not, and you and an opponent have enough for a full pot size bet on the turn, what are you going to do when the straight card comes? Call the rest of your stack off for 2-1 on your money as a 4-1 dog? Or better yet, fold to an aggressive player behind you who merely represents that straight? Of course you can always just bet in front heedless of what comes if you are first to act to avoid being bluffed out, but if the opponent is a reasonable player that is not wise.

And most hands you play should be able not only to stand at least one raise, but also a second moderate raise that is not more than 20% of your stack or an allin bet by a short stack player from whom you can make no more money if your hand hits when a preflop dog.

Joe, I from your posts you seem to be a tight player capable of folding top set when a draw hits, but why play a hand that lacks additional outs to continue to the river if someone makes a straight on you on the flop (even as little as a gutshot)? And what are you going to do when you flop bottom 2 against a preflop raiser marked with aces? Shove with 4s up and hope he doesn't hit his ace or counterfeit you or get trapped for your stack by a 3rd player with a set or good wrap? And if you are going to play QQ with junky sidecards then why leave out a similar JJ hand?

The preflop standard of 4 cards working together, and the principle that 2 holdem hands don't make a good omaha hand are not just valid but critical in a game where your stack is potentially on the line in any hand you choose to play.
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