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Old 11-12-2005, 02:56 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: Folding turn in a big pot

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On the turn, When he raises, you are getting 20:1 to call with an expectation of 24:1 with the callers behind you. This is a horrible fold.

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You raise a point I didn't think of before, but I think folding here is far from horrible.

With a made straight already possible, any 5 or J highly likely to make a straight, any T pretty likely to make straight and any 6 possibly making a straight, getting even 20:1 makes calling even one more bet on this turn look marginal at best to me.

If that's not enough, just to tip the scales further, anyone with a set has redraws to a full house or quads, and there's even a chance someone could make a flush on the river.

If you just magically dropped me into this hand at that point and said play from here, I'd probably call the bet; but I suspect that's because I'm not good enough to know better. I have a feeling you might need about 40:1 here to make investing even one more bet worth it.
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