Thread: 6 max hand - 55
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:11 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: 6 max hand - 55

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anyways this hand had a lot of stuff going on.

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This was a good hand to post.

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Party Poker (6 max, 6 handed) (1/2 Blind structure) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, UTG calls.

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This is pretty standard. Even though UTG is very loose and might have limped a hand with an 8 in it, your read suggests that he might be able to bet hands like Q4s or T3s (he's 80% VPIP, so he's playing LOTS of suited things), maybe a flush/straight draw, or perhaps just two overcards. Raising will also help protect against overcards behind you.

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Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

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This is interesting. You raised the flop because you potentially had the best hand. Now you've got a pretty good draw to go with your hand. I think a reasonable argument can be made for betting and for checking. I won't make the argument right now because it's worth letting everyone else think about it for a while.

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River: (8.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

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I don't know if I like this bet so much. Since it's less interesting than the turn bet, I'll go ahead and spell out my thoughts.

Since he bet-called the flop and called your turn bet, it's reasonable to think that he's either on a pair or a draw. If he was on a draw, it's very likely that he made it. If he had a straight draw, he either paired up (76, 65) or made his straight (52, 75). If he had a flush draw on the flop, I would have expected him to donk or check-raise the turn when it came in.

However, he might have had something like two overcards and picked up a flush draw on the turn (he bet the flop hoping to push you out of the pot, called the raise because that's what players do, and then check-called after picking up the flush draw). He may not bet/raise with the flush on the river fearing that you have the ace of flush.

What hands are going to call you here? Well... it's really tough to say. He may call the river with ace high or any pair because he's curious and doesn't want to be bluffed. Or he may only call with a stronger pair (like a pair of kings on the river).

I'd rather check behind and make him show down his hand (instead of giving him a chance to fold) because I would like more information about how he plays, and this information comes at the expense of only a relatively small portion of a bet (because I don't know how weak of a hand he might call with). If I already knew he would call with just a pair, this becomes an autobet. I'm basically too afraid of giving extra money to a hand that contains a weak heart like 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] without knowing that I'll get more than my fair share in return when he calls with a junk hand. The 5-high one card flush simply isn't that great.

I would optimistically call it +EV to bet. A more sober estimate would be "slightly +EV". I do think it's somewhat thin and I would rather check behind to gain information (those times when he doesn't call the bet, I lose some information on his play - Did he lead out with weak middle pair, top pair, overcards?). You also lose that information when he check-raises and you're forced to fold (because you're not bet-calling with this hand).

Since I know your hand is good, I would think he called you down with a pair of 8s.
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