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Well then by the letter of the law the first 2 examples I gave are certainly in violation of the 1PTAH rule. Although as you pointed out anything a player says would have zero relevance to the outcome of the hand.

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Well if you want to truly argue semantics there are multiple milestons that occur during the conclusion of a hand.

-the completion of betting
-the completion of the last action
-the award of a pot
-the completion of the deal marked by the beginning of the next deal

At each of these points there are do's and don'ts. There are specific rules that utilize each of these points as governing moments of a hand. If you would like a better understanding of cardroom practices and rules I simply suggest you read Robert's Rules of Poker by Bob Ciaffone they are (IMO) the most well written and comprehensive set of cardroom rules available. They also contain some gems you may wish to equate yourself with:


POKER ETIQUETTE

The following actions are improper, and grounds for warning, suspending, or barring a violator:

Making statements or taking action that could unfairly influence the course of play, whether or not the offender is involved in the pot.

Revealing the contents of a live hand in a multihanded pot before the betting is complete.

Revealing the contents of a folded hand before the betting is complete.

Do not divulge the contents of a hand during a deal even to someone not in the pot, so you do not leave any possibility of the information being transmitted to an active player.

Reading a hand for another player at the showdown before it has been placed faceup on the table.

Telling anyone to turn a hand faceup at the showdown.