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A/2 is sh*t with now high draw, so how can 2,3 be any better...

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Knoll - Are you serious? Do you really not see how it is possible for a hand with a deuce and a trey to be a better starting hand than a hand with an ace and a deuce?

Basically there are three ways a starting hand with a deuce and a trey can be better than a starting hand with an ace and a deuce.
• 1. The other two cards in the hand with the deuce and trey can be better high cards than the other two cards in the hand with the ace and deuce. (eg. 23KKn compared to A299n).
• 2. The other two cards in the hand with the deuce and trey can be better low cards than the other two cards in the hand with the ace and deuce. (eg. 2345n compared to A278n)
• 3.The hand with the deuce and trey can have a better chance to make a winning flush than the hand with the ace and a deuce. Double suited starting hands make more flushes than single suited starting hands and rainbow hands don't make any flushes at all.

Any of these three factors alone is not usually enough to make up the difference between the strength of a starting hand with ace-deuce and a starting hand with deuce-trey. But a combination of #1+#3 or #2+#3 often is.

For example, based on simulations, in a nine or ten player game,
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Both of those starting hands are generally very playable, although not exceptionally strong. Based on simulation results, the A-2-6-6-n is expected to win more often for low, but the 2-3-Q-Q-d is expected to scoop substantially more often and also figures to win more overall.

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