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Old 11-07-2005, 04:22 AM
Dazarath Dazarath is offline
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Default Re: Minimum hand to call here

If you're calling 87s here, are you calling it everytime it gets capped to you? I don't really see the difference between calling suited connectors/low pockets here versus calling them in a normal capped situation (against 2 aggro players). Obviously, this is not quite true. 1) the 3-bettor has Axo in his range 2) the 4-bettor has a lot more unpaired hands than normal. But the point is that you're still up against hands that you have to hit the flop hard to beat, and your implied odds are cut down to almost nothing.

As for the hands I'd call, I think AK and TT are definitely too strong to lay down against those ranges. I think AQ and 99 would be borderline. In pokerstove, AQ has more equity against #2's range than TT. I understand that pokerstove shouldn't be the determining factor for one's play, but it makes for a nice starting point. I'll put my vote for AQ+/TT+ and say the borderline hands are AJ/99.

If we assume that the 2nd guy's capping range is 99+/AT+/KJ+, then there's 6*6=36 combinations of pairs and 16*7=112 combinations of unpaired cards. (Someone check my math.) If you're playing hands like TT/99, I'm assuming you're looking to hit a set or an all-undercard board. So I guess you could estimate what percent of the time you hit the flop and how much you expect to make on those flops, and then determine if 99 is really playable. I think AQ dominates both of their ranges enough that it's a cold-call, but that's just my opinion.
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