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Old 11-06-2005, 02:33 AM
Cry Me A River Cry Me A River is offline
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Default Re: Running bad or playing bad, beginning to wonder Hand #1

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How can you not call when you are getting 8:1 or 9:1 on your money if the small blind completes?


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So, in other words, you're limping here with any two?

Just so we're clear...

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What hands are you a 9:1 dog against?


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You're not up against a hand, you're up against 9 or 10 hands.

Assuming nobody even has anything really resembling a real hand:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1326610
pokenum -h ks 9h - as 4c - 6h 6s - tc 8h - kd td - 2d 2c - qd 9d - jc 4s
Holdem Hi: 376992 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks 9h 20621 5.47 345933 91.76 10438 2.77 0.068
As 4c 55708 14.78 316309 83.90 4975 1.32 0.154
6s 6h 78887 20.93 297838 79.00 267 0.07 0.209
Tc 8h 28087 7.45 343263 91.05 5642 1.50 0.082
Kd Td 49233 13.06 315198 83.61 12561 3.33 0.147
2c 2d 59634 15.82 317091 84.11 267 0.07 0.158
Qd 9d 37200 9.87 336273 89.20 3519 0.93 0.103
4s Jc 27101 7.19 344916 91.49 4975 1.32 0.078

Now we'll improve opponent's holdings a little, but still nothing special:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1326620
pokenum -h ks 9h - as ts - 6h 6s - 9s 8s - kc qc - 2d 2c - qd 9d - jc tc
Holdem Hi: 376992 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks 9h 14485 3.84 357369 94.79 5138 1.36 0.044
As Ts 67073 17.79 306635 81.34 3284 0.87 0.182
6s 6h 74330 19.72 302336 80.20 326 0.09 0.197
9s 8s 22504 5.97 351990 93.37 2498 0.66 0.062
Kc Qc 53786 14.27 317831 84.31 5375 1.43 0.149
2c 2d 62042 16.46 314624 83.46 326 0.09 0.165
Qd 9d 42815 11.36 329270 87.34 4907 1.30 0.119
Jc Tc 29452 7.81 344256 91.32 3284 0.87 0.082

Really, you're hoping for, what, two-pair? A flopped house? Yeah, a miracle flop will get paid off but not nearly often enough to make up for all the chip spewing you're going to be doing with a dominated hand.

Edit: And I just noticed I only did 8 hands, so you're even worse off than that...

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I am not too likely to get into trouble with this hand.


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Then why are you posting it?
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