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Old 11-05-2005, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: Restating the Paradox

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The LAWS are fixed. The outcomes of those laws are probabilistic in the theory.


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What you want are fixed laws and absolute chance, which is self-contradictory. Either the laws are ultimate or chance is ultimate. Either way, no free will.

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It seems clear that you don't know anything about science.


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I know that science assumes order in the universe AND chance though it can prove neither and they are self-contradictory.

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Do you realize that heat transfer on a microscopic level is just atoms wiggling around randomly, bumping into each other in a process that appears completely random on a local scale?


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Which is it, random or apparently random?

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But if you back up and look at the bigger picture, this underlying random process creates a bigger picture that has a very neat and orderly structure to it.


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Ok, order. But order produced randomly. So how can it really be order? Why can't the process randomly be completely different tomorrow? The local order that is randomly produced can just as easily turn into disorder if chance is the underlying cause.

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Why are you troubled by a universe where "chance reigns"?


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How can anything mean anything if chance reigns? What purpose or meaning is there in an accident? If your criticism of Christianity is just a random flow of electrons, why should anyone pay any attention to it? How can you claim validity to something that is the product of an accident? And if the will is accidental, it may be free in the sense of undetermined, but how is it a choice?
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