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My plan is to bet around 150 to protect my hand on flop, and hope the pissed off villain comes over the top with a hand against which I'm the favorite. I think, given the circumstances, this is quite likely to happen. If he folds, that's fine too.
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Man you sure don't listen well.
Result
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1321850
pokenum -h kc ks - 2h 8c -- jh th 8h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Jh Th 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Kc 488 49.29 457 46.16 45 4.55 0.516
8c 2h 457 46.16 488 49.29 45 4.55 0.484
as you can see if he has ANY pair+flush draw it's a coinflip
Result
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1321851
pokenum -h kc ks - ah 8c -- jh th 8h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Jh Th 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Kc 476 48.08 503 50.81 11 1.11 0.486
8c Ah 503 50.81 476 48.08 11 1.11 0.514
If he holds the Ace of hearts you are a slight dog but still basically a coinflip
Result
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1321854
pokenum -h kc ks - ah 9c -- jh th 8h
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Jh Th 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Kc 378 38.18 604 61.01 8 0.81 0.386
9c Ah 604 61.01 378 38.18 8 0.81 0.614
If he holds the ace of hearts and some form of a straigtening card you are a significant dog
Now apply these to a blank turn
Result
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1321856
pokenum -h kc ks - 2h 8c -- jh th 8h 7d
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing 7d Jh Th 8h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Kc 27 61.36 14 31.82 3 6.82 0.648
8c 2h 14 31.82 27 61.36 3 6.82 0.352
NOW YOU ARE A FAVORITE
You aren't a favorite on the flop against ANYTHING BUT A BLUFF....do you get what people are telling you? JEEEEEEEEEEEEZUS you don't listen well. Yes you are AHEAD of 2h 8c on the flop....but that doesn't mean you are the favorite with 2 cards to come...basically if you push that flop you aren't giving your opponent a chance to make a mistake.....he's going to call you with probably winners, and he's going to fold garbage that he might bluff with or call turn bets that is now an underdog to your hand...do you see how that works. Remember the fundamental theory of poker "you win money when your opponent plays differently than they would if they know what you hold" If you let your opponent come over the top of you on a semi-bluff, he's playing the hand better than you...he figures he has some equity on a scary board, and a chance to win on his raise, plus he can still improve to win...do you see where everyone is going with this?