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Old 11-04-2005, 03:09 AM
DeuceHigh80 DeuceHigh80 is offline
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Is there a point where you would call 1 raise from the big blind with literally any 2 cards? Somewhere I thought I had read a discussion on the odds it would take to do that -- I couldn't remember but it seemed pretty unusual to be getting 12.5:1 pre-flop, so I acted really loose and clicked on the call button with my offsuit 2-gapper.

This was a ridiculously loose passive table -- 52% vp$ip and only 1.2% PFR. UTG was an unknown, the two cold callers and the posters were all very LPP (i.e. 50/1/1 or such). That also factored into my call -- if I do hit the miracle flop I've got good relative position on the pre-flop aggressor who will likely lead almost any flop and get several callers.


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Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $1.50. CO posts a blind of $1.50.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) calls, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.


Flop: (13.50 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero ?

With only 2 outs I have to depend on implied odds to make this call since my immediate pot odds are only 17.5 to 1. If I do catch one of my 3's then it seems reasonable that I can depend on UTG to lead the turn again (after I check) and at least 2 of the LPPs will probably call (since that's what LPPs do...) Does that seem like enough to call this flop?

Is there any reason to raise here? Even though it seems likely I have the best hand right now it would be hard to protect in this huge pot and would be vulnerable to almost any turn and river card.
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