Re: Good Draw?
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What I am not sure I agree with is betting the pot on the flop before his all-in re-raise. With a decent pot and this type of board, I like to try to control the pots size depending on what I have as "nut" outs. Since I don't have the flush "nut" outs, i would check and call the flop bet with a wrap straight draw.
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I don't agee with this at all. The weaker your flush draw is, the more aggressive you have to play it. See Reuben & Ciaffone's chapter in PL+NL Poker.
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The other thing that complicates it is there are 2 others that act after the villan and any of those guys could also have the nut flush draw and or wraps as well.
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Exactly, these are the hands you want to fold with a big check-raise.
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Okay. I just got home an re-read the draw chapter. This is what it says related to a straight flush draw or a similar good drawing hand, "..i am much more likely to prefer a raise to a call when I have a good drawing hand, but am not hitting to the nuts...I can never be sure if my flush is good when it comes. My tendancy is to whack my opponent with a big raise and hope he folds. If he goes with me, I know my hand has plenty of outs.."
So you either want to take the pot down with the bet/raise or get your money in the middle on the flop. If you just check and call and a flush card comes, you may be beat for sure and you either fold and forfeit the pot or call of the rest of your stack anyway. Is this what he means?
Let me ask another question, what if the draw was weaker, say only the same flush draw and maybe only a outside straight draw (no wrap/redraw). Would you still pot it and where do you draw the line? Thanks,
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