Re: JJ on 8 high board. money?
You ended up getting 17.5 to 3.5 on your preflop call, and I think maybe that's good enough (I'm not sure). But usually you'll need to catch a set, and you'll have a lot of bets to make up when you do (partly because sometimes you'll lose anyway).
Once the flop comes, I'm not very happy, because I don't have a set.
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