[brettbrettr]

I don't have the time to type this up right now but I think this is a pretty sticky spot so if you fellas could take a look and discuss.

For Mitch, I don't at all think calling is "disastrous." My gut tells me its better than raising. I suspect folding might be better altogether. I'll have more time to think about it in a couple of days.

Also, "defining your hand" is not a reason to raise.