Talk about coming out of no where on both the turn and the river. Both cards don't seem to help anyone, but a new person starts firing on every street. I'm actually lost here too. Did the small blind have a J with a weak kicker? The 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] doesn't seem to be any help so did the button have 2 pair, a made set or straight on the flop?