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Old 10-28-2005, 11:58 PM
benkahuna benkahuna is offline
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Default Folding to a higher flush

I was wondering if some people out there could give some practical guidelines to make the most +EV decision to fold a made flush.

I'm assuming a 3 flush board and the non nut flush and a non-paired board. Also not a 4 to a straight flush board.
I'm aware that the chance of being up against a better flush is something like 6:1 and that as a general rule you do NOT fold your made flush.
I'm not talking about limit. In limit, I'd assume you pretty much have to call with the guidelines I've mentioned here.

I've come across this situation twice in live no limit ring games. I play something like a suited connector in a multiway pot in a soft game with lots of people limping in preflop.
The flop comes 3 to a flush in my suit, giving me the made flush.

One time, I bet first, got raised and all in reraised the guy that was capable of a big laydown that knew me to be a tight player that rarely bluffed.

The other time, I faced a small bet and was last to act and all in reraised (stupidly, I think now as it was a deep stack situation). The pot was maybe 15 at the time. I faced a 10 dollar or so bet and had about 200 behind (buy in 100) from a player with around 100. I all in reraised. The player I faced would call all in w/ top pair in a deep stack situation.

I'm seeking to avoid these situations (they are rare) and think that maybe at some times I should fold when I believe it likely I have a smaller flush. I had a feeling both times that I describe above that someone had a bigger flush.

So, what do you all think?

Should you ever fold a made flush in a ring game on a 3 flush board? If so, under what conditions?

How do deep stack situations affect this decision? Any good book advice on this particular issue? The main one I recall suggests not ever laying it down with a 3 flush board, but almost every book is about limit hold em...



So far, I've only come across this situation very few times and I was always the aggressor, all in reraising others and getting cold slowly by better players and quickly by looser players.
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