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Old 10-28-2005, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Why do people love israel so much??

Hold up.

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The Arabs subjugated the Jews for centuries. Significant Jewish populations in many Arab nations, such as Syria, no longer exist due to mistreatment, as just one example.


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Israel gave Palestinians the boot in 1948 and refused to ever let any refusgees return, and this led to much increased violence and subsequent expulsion of Jews around the Middle East.
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Moreover, "the Jews" are not subjugating Arabs. Assuming the truth of your hypothesis, Israel is. There is a significant difference. "The Jews" that are not in Israel are not doing anything to "the Arabs" other than predominantly living in peace with them.


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Israel is subjegating Palestinaians big time. Big time. In occupied terrority, Arabs could be imprisoned for no reason for months (various academics considered activist for example) and were subject to daily beatings, haressments, and humiliations. Demostrations which featured lots of yelling and some rock throwing, were responded to with live ammo. This went on into the 80s and the 90s, and has only very recently gotten better.
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And "the Jews" have a long, long way to go before their "subjugation" of any Arab population matches what Arab nations -- let alone much of the world -- has done to the Jews that lived among them.

I just find this marked dislike for Israel very befuddling. The Hutus killed millions of Tutsis, and nobody said or did anything. The Sudanese are murdering and raping other Sudanese, and nobody cares. It took years before anyone responded to the crap that went on in Bosnia, and even today the US is criticized for intervening. Yet Israel -- which reasonably can be considered to be trying to protect itself from annihilation at worst and, at a minimum, terrorism -- takes actions against a relatively small population of Palestinians, at least some of whom are members of terrorist organizations, actions which I don't disagree may be extreme or violent, and the world jumps up and down screaming bloody murder.

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And here's the rest of your post which argues that Israeli attoricites aren't as bad as others and the Arabs used to do worse 1000 years ago. This sort of speaks for itself.
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