I understood what you meant, no problem there. Was referring to the comment of picking up 18 bets, as if that somehow is relevent. Points rehashed quickly, 3rd and 4th streets played in reverse. Raise third---NOW you can check-raise to try and thin if you feel like the situation warrents it, though I am likely to keep leading. The original poster should be interested if he played the hand correctly, not that he happened to win.