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Why do you want to take the pot down now rather than later? What possible difference does waiting make unless you're planning to value bet both streets? Are you planning to value bet both streets vs a TAG? How do you react to a turn c/r? Which line is most likely to result it Villain putting in more chips when behind + you getting to showdown?

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I concede the bet/fold line. The more that I think about it, it seems better to check behind and call a river bet (or bet if checked to). (As a side note, I wonder what we would do if we get river check/raised...but I doubt that would happen if the check on the turn was a failed check/raise attempt.)

The only worse hands that will call hands that paired the K or T or have a bigger diamond than our 8. A paint diamond would oftentimes raise.

Calling/betting the river costs the same and we get a showdown.

I think that my aggressiveness gets the best of me sometimes. Like I said in my blind post to this thread, I'm an "uber-LAG." [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Hey, lesson learned. heh