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The idea that it is good to be in the "red zone" because you will have more +EV situations is stupid. Here's why. When you have a 6x stack maybe its easy to find a 60% chance of doubling up, but if you win, you only double up to twelve freaking BBs. Lets look at some numbers. If you have 6 BBs and get it in as a 70/30 favorite twice (an incredibly wildly optimistic assunmption) then what's your ev. Well you double to 12x .7 of the time or 8.4, and then you double up again to 16.8 .7 of the time or 11.76. So even if we assume you can get it in as a 70/30 favorite twice, you have on average less than 12x. If you gamble as a 1.5:1 dog for 9 BBs out of your 15x stack then .4 of the time you will have 24 BBs, and .6 of the time you will have 6 BBs so your ev equals (.4)(24)+(.6)(6)=9.6+3.6=13.2. In other words even if you gamble is only a relativels small dog now you would still need to get it in as a big favorite twice later 100% of the time for this theory to make sense. It just makes no sense.

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this is probably the most thouhtful response to go against betgo's idea, but i still believe its flawed. you're only looking at the double ups. they are part of the reason that having a redzone stack is good, but another, IMO more important reason, is that if you pick you spots well, and know the tendencies of the plaeyrs behind you, you can easily stay afloat, or pick up a little chips by pushing a bit more than once per round.

it seems like a catch 22, but i think there's a lot of truth to it. you can get called by weaker hands and be more likely to double up, while at the same time pick up a lot of decent sized pots when they have garbage. its a bit like doyle's theory in super system where he can pick up tons of pots, while at the same time gets looser action on his really good hands.