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Old 10-24-2005, 03:22 AM
Mikey Mikey is offline
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Default Not Quite Like Feeny

i'm in a 10-20 HE and my opponnent is in the BB.

A little bit about him, its the first time we've played together in about 6-8 months. As soon as he see's me sitting in the game he makes a comment, "Ohh..... there he is... the guy who never plays a hand, everytime he raises he's got a good hand"

Some hands we have played together and I have seen him play he isn't overly agressive unless he's got a very good hand, like trips or a set, or the nuts or top two. He's sort of an intermediate to average player. He thinks about hands and trys to put his opponens on hands and the game we play in is very loose and on the agressive side as well.

So, here is the hand in question.

The game just got a little shorthaned now since some players are walking so its 6 of us. He's in the BB.

UTG folds and I Raise with KcKs.
the 2 players and the SB fold, and he calls from the BB.
Before he calls he makes a comment like..... "what you raised.."

And of course he calls my raise to play a little defense.

Now before I continue on with my story, there is a few things I have been reading which I must say are not absolutely true, about how your opponents perceive you and how they are paying attention, most of it is not true, because they are much more concerned with what they are holding than what you are holding not to mention the fact that when a tight guy does raise, most of them are thinking.... hmm I'll out play this guy.

So he defends and we see a flop.

The flop comes As Jc Ts.

he checks and I fire a bet.

He thinks for a moment and ponders and I can tell he really doesn't like his hand, thinks for a split second more and calls.

I believe at this point my hand is very good and I have no reason to believe he's holding an Ace.

Ok so the turn falls 9s.

Putting 3 spades up there.

He checks. I bet with KK with the nut draw he thinks for a second and makes the call.

On the river falls a Kh.

He checks. All I'm thinking in my mind is well..... the straight is up there for all of us to see, so I may as well bet this hand and hopefully he'll call me with his (Ace) maybe I was wrong and he has it, or maybe with some other holding, but what else can he have to call my river bet here...
Did he check a Queen?
Is he that crafty.

Now as I bet the river, im thinking, well I remember reading in Feeny's book, that the straight is there for all of us to see, so why not bet it since you believe you get a call from him not to mention the fact that a straight may as well bet into you since its so obvious.

On the river he checkraised me, and then all I could think about is TOP, well you should bet your hand for value on the end not on your chances of having the best hand, but on the chances of winning the last bet when you are called.

hmmm......

Which one is it?

Now in Feeny's example his opponnent lead bet the flop of
AKQ and called Feeny's raise
Turn was a blank, check call.
River was a Jack, and his opponnent hesiated and Feeny bet out.

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