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Old 10-19-2005, 03:58 PM
gharp gharp is offline
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Default Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river

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but should you call the turn given that? On the turn you gotta figure you're gonna have to
1)pay 2 bets
2)hit a A,9,7,T,or Q to continue and of those none of them are giving you the nuts so they're all partial outs.

How many outs do we give each? There are 2 Ace's and 3 of each of the others left. I'd say it would be generous to give each card more than 1/2 of an out each. That would give us 2.5 outs. A clear fold on the turn. Is my thinking correct here? Should I even be thinking of this problem in this way?

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Yeah, I went back and edited that all of what I was saying went for the river. It gets tricky on the turn because you have to factor in how often you'll improve and how often he's bluffing. If you think he never bluffs and he wouldn't pull a check-raise with something like AJ/AT or worse, then you're right - it's a clear fold there.
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