[DougShrapnel]

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Also I don't see how it follows from 'it is wrong to do something to someone' to 'people have a right not to have that done to them'.


[/ QUOTE ] This is backwards from what I'm trying to say, People have a right not to have this done to them, thus it it wrong to do that.

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Not even 'merely'. Morality is (imo) a part of self-interest. The question is which part and what is its nature?

[/ QUOTE ] I'm beggining to think that all of morality is rational self-interest. Do you think that there is any situation where someone is being ethical without any regard to his/her own interest?