[DougShrapnel]

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Or better topic maybe: To say that there is no absolute morality is to say that someone does not have any rights.

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Not if rights are a construction of society. Unless you mean absolute rights and I'm not sure what you would mean by that.

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[/ QUOTE ]Well, if rights are a construction of society then morals as well are a construction of society. I might want to say: In order to show AM we must have some natural rights. NR are usually defined to include liberty, and life. Some add the pursuit of happiness, some add other things. AM would most like be derived from NR. Or I might want to say that rights are truth elucidated by reason. And AM would follow from NR.

I am beginning to believe that ethics and morality are merely rational self-interest.