[chezlaw]

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chez makes this point

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In rational debate the idea is to get to a situation where we agree on the assumptions and then determine which conclusions follow.


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which is why so many discussions on here would not qualify as rational .. it's very difficult to get somebody to lay out their premises and define their terms. That's not to say they aren't entertaining and there certainly are some good points made but we'd be thrown out of the Marquis of Queensbury ring.

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There has to be some balance, dont you think? The idea is to get to that situation. Until we've got to it, we are not in a position to start from it.

So, unless we've already done it before we start from a stated position and work backwards.

This is tough both on the intellect and ego and some have no interest in it anyway. I still think there is plenty of it going on and instead of criticising where it is missing it would be better to contribute.

chez