Re: The Maximum Outs in hold \'em vs. a made hand
Whenever you are defining the nuts, you have to stop at the given stage in the hand. It is called the stone cold nuts if it is impossible that it will be beat throughout the rest of the hand. 45 and 45 of hearts are both the nuts at the given time and neither of them are the stone cold nuts. Yes, I would rather have 45 of hearts, but it does not make the hand any better at the given moment in time. This is all I was talking about.
AA is the nuts preflop. On a rainbow flop of AA7, it is the stone cold nuts on the flop. On a flop of AT7, it is the nuts, but far from stone cold.
Are you trying to say that on a flop of A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] isn't the nuts because A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or
A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] is a better hand?
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