[goofball]

Yeah, part of the problem may be that I've never read any literature or played it ever. I don't even know of any literature that exists. In general still feel pretty uncomfortable with the stud games since I have so much less experience with that format. Position is different, there are no blidns, it's weird man! If I had it my way we would only play the button games, but gotta be ableto compromise or the games would never go.

Bugstud - we can't eliminate holdem because if we did I would feel like a goober 100% of the time instead of the current 85% or whatever.

Dan (Theman) my name is Patrick