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Old 10-11-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Hypothetical Question

Three more things:

1. Given that two cards are known, the odds of flopping an ace or set are slightly higher than they would be otherwise.

2. Assuming KK folds sometimes, playing correctly against it includes bluffing sometimes. EVERY bluff is a semibluff. Two or three outs for the turn to back up a flop bluff isn't insignificant, especially when KK never knows if a card beat him. Or a bad case for KK: Ax suited flops a 12 out draw, a pocket pair bluffs, the draw calls, KK calls. Now KK has to dodge 14 on the turn, plus backdoor straight outs could show up, etc.

3. Folding isn't the only way KK can be ahead and give up flop EV. The mismatch of information will make it easy for draws to draw correctly, because KK can't just raise evey time the board is suited and someone bets. Most of the time the bet is a hand that outflopped KK.
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