[milesdyson]

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cool poll.

but i don't get this:

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(8 points - there are many more 5x, 7x, 9x hands that we can beat here than there are 8x/6x/better 9x hands. Add to that the fact that you've seen UTG be the second overcaller with bottom pair on the river, and this looks more like a value raise)
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there are more hands he would bet here that we beat than we lose to. this doesn't even have to be the case though, as we have UTG stuck in here who will probably call a river raise, which means we don't necessarily have to be ahead of SB's range to make this raise.