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A bet here will let you know where you stand in the hand completely. If you get raised, given the board, it still doesn't mean you're behind.

[/ QUOTE ]So if he gets raised he doesn't know where he stands in the hand completely, does he? Also, why wouldn't villain wait for the river to raise with an ace for fear that a non-ace hand will fold?

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...(christ my girlfriend is annoying...she keeps slamming all the doors...)

[/ QUOTE ] Thanks, dude.