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Hand 2, playing any KKxx for a limp PF is going to be +EV in the long run.
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Any KKxx?
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1262441
pokenum -mc 500000 -o8 ks kc 8d 9h - 6s 4s 7c 5c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled boards
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ks Kc 8d 9h 155994 265043 234741 216 0 0 0 0.421
6s 4s 7c 5c 234741 234741 265043 216 291120 0 0 0.579
Hmmm, something doesnt seem right.
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Well obviously KKxx isn't going to be a favorite against many hands in this game, but if we get in for a limp we aren't continuing on that many flops. Our EV comes when we catch a favorable flop. A two times calculation is a little misleading cause we are not trying to get all-in pre-flop and see all 5 cards, no?
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A favorable flop? What would that be? The only good outs for high you have is to make trip K's, bascially, and often times that hand will be extremley vunerable. (not to mention you might only take 1/2 if a low is present) A typical "favorable" board for KKQ6 would be ...
K63 (63 suited, not your suit)
Now, you have no possiblity for low, and you have to dodge flush cards and straight cards in the process. Notice how A24T is ahead of you in this situation ...
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1262584
pokenum -o8 kh kc qd 6s - as 2c 4c ts -- kd 6c 3c
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 820 enumerated boards containing 6c 3c Kd
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
6s Kc Qd Kh 148 510 310 0 0 0 0 0.401
As Ts 4c 2c 310 310 510 0 630 0 0 0.599
Having a hand without a low like KKQ6 is not not good, ESPECIALLY FROM EARLY POSITION. It might be worth a limp in LP or the blinds. Please stick to Omaha High.
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It is thinking like this that makes the PLO8 so juicy for Wintermute and Ribbo. K63 with a flush draw is one of the worst flops where you would play on with your Kings, but you give it as a typical "favorable" flop. And even against a hand that hits this flop pretty hard (no reason to expect someone to have a hand with a low draw, flush draw, and straight draw every time you see this flop) you are still only a 3 to 2 dog on the flop and will become a nice favorite on a blank turn where you can push really hard. You are supporting your claim that not playing KKxx is no good by cooking the stats.