Thread: 2/4 KK
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Old 10-05-2005, 11:58 AM
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I don't believe in any rules and I don't believe this would be a good fold. I don't have enough reason to believe an ace is very likely yet, there are a lot of draws on this board, and a wide range of hands will pay off flop raises and turn bets.

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I'm leaning towards a fold on the flop too. You're up against five opponents who have all voluntarily put money into the pot. Sure, sometimes you'll throw away the best hand - but you have to think about the long term. Most of the time in this spot you'll be drawing very slim.

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I too would also fold the flop, but the pot size is large enough where playing the hand the way the hero did can only be a small mistake at best. I estimiate that the hero has 3 pure outs here and he is getting 13-1 to call, which is very close to getting correct odds to call, and if the hero has the odds to call he is much better off raising. Overall I think the ev of folding is only slightly higher than the ev of raising in this situation so i dont think the hero made a terrible mistake. This is a very good hand problem, and I think the flop play is still debatable, but I would fold in this situation.
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