The Packers started off 1-4 last season before going on a tear and winning 9 of their last 11 and making the playoffs. A lot of the wins during the last 11 were very close games and 3 or 4 came down to last second FG's by longwell.

I refuse to believe that the Pack are as bad aas they have been playing. Brett Favre is still Brett Favre and although he's obviously lost a step he still has a large drive to win. I also think A. Green is due to have a break out game.

The Panthers also got off to a bad start last year before getting it going and almost making the playoffs. Their running game hasn't been what it was last year with the exception of the Patriots game. Davis is getting 3.6 a carry, a far cry from his 2003 numbers.

Delhomme hasn't put up strong numbers this year either, although getting S. Smith back is a huge improvement for their receiving core.

To sum it up, the Packers are better than 0-3 and should atleast keep this game close.

Green Bay + 7.5

(also think GB +280 has value, still debating)