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Old 09-30-2005, 09:19 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: HERE THEY ARE, BE GENTLE.

i was at work when i responded to these hands, and i couldn't get back to this to answer you.

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4 A6o: pretty awful. fold the flop, fold the turn. calling the flop is very bad.

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Even with a decent read?

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i will quote what you gave as your read:
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Here I'd seen SB bet a few flops and fold to any aggression on later streets.

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first i wouldn't call this a decent read. i would call it "something i saw at the table." a read is "will bluff raggy flops," or "will bluff paired flops," or "will cap flush draws regardless of size of field," etc.

it is often the right play to bet the flop and fold to aggression later. i'm just saying that seeing him do this doesn't really tell you much about him. now if you'd seen him show down 22 after he bet the flop and turn on a 89QA board, well that's a read you can use.

and this was what you decided to do with this read:
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My plan was to call here and raise any scare card

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there are several things i don't like here.

1. there's a player to act behind you and you're devising a plan for a future street based on incomplete information. it seems like you ignored the 3rd guy altogether.
2. when you do get a chance to raise this turn, he has now already bet the flop and turn. and since we really don't know how he plays yet, we are going to put 2 BB into a small pot with bottom pair against some guy who probably has a better hand. we are relying on him (AND the other guy) to fold here.
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