[durron597]

[12:53] durron597: that is a horrible spot
[12:53] durron597: sometimes i raise sometimes i call
[12:54] bluefeet: yeah, the "raise" is what got us talking
[12:54] bluefeet: it really wasn't much of a consideration for me
[12:55] bluefeet: i usually push over top (donk'ish)...or call off 1/4 my stack facing a c/b and a whiff [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
[12:55] bluefeet: the raise arguement was compelling
[12:55] durron597: whether i raise or call depends on a lot of thing
[12:55] durron597: table image
[12:55] durron597: opponent
[12:55] durron597: really the biggest factor i guess depends on whether my opponent likes to fold or not
[12:56] bluefeet: yeah, the raise came from "play it like AA"
[12:56] bluefeet: assuming two things.....
[12:56] bluefeet: you'll call PF to a rereraise/push (being fairly committed)...
[12:56] bluefeet: ..and will push a checked flop ---
[12:57] bluefeet: seeing you might get the check if he only calls PF
[12:57] durron597: well
[12:57] durron597: if you reraise preflop it has to be allin
[12:57] durron597: there is no other choice
[12:57] bluefeet: [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
[12:57] bluefeet: thats was my thinking
[12:57] bluefeet: but a reraise to 600 was interesting
[12:57] durron597: no it isn't.
[12:58] durron597: a reraise to 600 is retarted
[12:58] bluefeet: thats what i thought....think about it though
[12:58] durron597: it's just awful. holla.
[12:58] bluefeet: lol
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[13:00] bluefeet: or they might fold
[13:01] bluefeet: TT-77 prob won't fold to a push PF (you've seen this)
[13:01] bluefeet: i dunno
[13:01] bluefeet: it's late
[13:01] durron597: the last thing i saw was "lol"
[13:01] bluefeet: it was quite the discussion
[13:01] bluefeet: we ran through a ton of situations.....it seemed plausible
[13:01] durron597: reraise to 600 is retarted because you commit 40% of your stack to a hand you might end up folding post flop.
[13:01] bluefeet: ...to play it like "AA"
[13:01] durron597: it is horrible, period.
[13:02] durron597: ok, play it like AA. push preflop.
[13:02] bluefeet: [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
[13:02] bluefeet: i gotta go to bed!!!!

[13:03] bluefeet: (ps. i push 100% of the time here)
[13:03] durron597: sometimes a call is ok
[13:03] bluefeet: yeah, but how often do you "hit"?
[13:03] durron597: i am calling if the BB is a loose caller
[13:04] bluefeet: 35% or something?
[13:04] bluefeet: facing a c/b?
[13:04] durron597: [13:03] durron597: i am calling if the BB is a loose calle
[13:04] bluefeet: yeah
[13:04] bluefeet: pushing blows though, when his range could very often be 99+..and he WILL call your push
[13:05] bluefeet: the raise option......
[13:05] bluefeet: explore that a bit, ONLY for those times where you'd push
[13:05] durron597: no
[13:05] durron597: raise option is bad
[13:05] bluefeet: lol
[13:05] durron597: bad bad bad bad bad
[13:05] durron597: BAD
[13:05] durron597: bad
[13:05] durron597: bad bad bad
[13:05] durron597: by the way
[13:05] durron597: it is bad