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11:2 to us, so we now say 22:2 and we need 11bets on the river when we hit meaning even if utg calls (12BB, then caps river with MP2 12BB+4BB+4BB = 20BB(Excluding ours)

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I guess you've got the 22:2 number from taking 10.5:1 and multiplying it with 2, and than adding 1 because you want to make a profit, right? In that case your thinking is correct, but don't need to add anything really.

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Was actually a typo LOL

Thanks for your help Nick, I'm going to review some hands where i may have miscalculated implied odds(and got lucky)

Although i feel stupid, I'm happy to have learnt i was wrong on implied odds.

I'm trying to learn advanced concepts when i dont have the basics implace [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img](i thought i did).