Re: Calculations
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Since there's 4 T's, the # of outs added by the T is:
Extra outs = (No. of T's) * (EV when T comes) / (Assumed pot size)
= 0.67 * 4 / 6
= .45
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I am not familiar with this caluculation. Do u mean that if potsize change our number of outs change?
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Btw, the backdoor straight via an A or 9 coming on the turn needn't really be considered, because hitting either card on the turn sets up a pretty EV-neutral call.
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If pot was bigger it wouldnt be EV-neutral. Do we suddenly have to start to count this as an "out" then?
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When we start to count outs over multiple streets it always gets complicated. If we are on flop and, for example, got a backdoorflushdraw there is 9/47 we will hit turn and 8/46 we will hit river. We will hit flush about 3.3%. If we hit our flushdraw on turn we sometimes will get a free showdown, sometimes have to pay 1BB and sometimes more. So the real investment we are talking about on flop is the flopcall + sometims turncall. Lets say we are investing 0.6BB and we will hit 3.3%. Then final pot have to be something like 18BB to make a call EV-neutral. (this is if we will win 100% when we hit flush and if we dont include our own riverbets in "final pot")
In SSH they say this kind of flushdraw is worth 1.5 outs when we are on flop. I really dont see how we can say this.
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