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Old 09-16-2005, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: Aces flops a set: Now fold???

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Sometimes, people's stack sizes helps determine how likely they are to call.

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For sure stack sizes should always be taken into account but PF raises are better evaluated as multiples of the BB.

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In the situation where stacks are 800, sure, the odds are getting big enough that you shouldn't mind people folding. Deep-stacked, when you have a big hand you want to make a raise that your opponents shouldn't call, but will, that's where the money comes from.

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Bottom line is that 3 people have shown strength before you and you have the best possible hand that loses value with each opponent that calls you. In any STT I want to isolate AND get all my chips in if I think there is a decent chance of a caller. Sure, if it's a huge MTT and you have mountains of chips relative to the BB a big (but not all-in)reraise might accomplish the same thing with less risk of everyone folding.


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The post you're quoting was talking about the situation where everyone has stacks of 1500, that's even mentioned right there in the portion you quoted. Also, at 20/2's and below I see people call half their stacks and then fold the flop all the time. Don't assume all your opponents think logically or know what they're doing.


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I assumed the responder misread the OP as having 1500 instead of 800. And if the 20+2 players are that donkish, all the more reason to push.

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These hands (AK and KK) will usually play and might even reraise anyway. Now let's work on getting action from worse ones.

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There aren't much "worse" hands for your opponents than a dominated hand and an underpair.

I think the consensus is PF push.



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