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So to clarify:

You believe that when God was establishing the Jewish people, starting with Abraham leaving Ur etc, that God planned on Christ always coming, but before he sent him the Jews that lived were saved, but once he came, the Jews that rejected lost the 'grace' that was in pre-christ salvation?


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I believe that God had (planned to) crucified Christ from before time began. Thus those of Israel that were saved had faith in Jesus as a comming sin bearer who would take their sins. Jesus' coming didn't change whether or not people were saved or not, merely changed the name that was given to the person by which they were saved.